Update: Q&A: The Harbinger – another modern 'prophet of doom'

[This is an update on “countdown to September 13, 2015”.   What’s happening on that date?  Read on.

The reason we’re resurrecting this year-old Q&A is because the same ‘source’ just recently sent this:

Another serious ‘truth-seeker’ who left Christianity and is on the same quest as Sinaites have been for five years now, also just recently mentioned this forthcoming event, adding that a meteor is reportedly on its way to planet earth and will be part of the anticipated disaster on September 13, 2015.  Had to check if it’s falling on a Friday but whew, it’s on a Sunday.  Anyway, here is the original introduction when this was first posted on September 10, 2014:

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This Q was sent to me by friend “P” who is neither into religion nor the Bible.  So it was a surprise to me that he would even take seriously, the predictions in a book titled The Harbinger.   To S6K visitors reading this,  a  more elaborate and thorough explanation is in the post:    Q&A: “Israel prophecy” – “veiled in obscurity”?  

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Re: Financial Collapse of the US before 13 Sept 2015

Q:  OK, my friends, I have read the Harbinger. It is an awe inspiring book. We are not talking Democrat/Republican crap here. This is major league. [Yes, I know the clip begins with Harvard’s O’Reilly, but Quickly segues to the author of Harbinger.]

What I want to know is: what does one do with stocks? What does one do with cash held in US Dollars? Never mind how does one buy food and drink? I’ve been through war and famine but am not familiar with the scenario laid out here.

In this merry picture, what would happen to the DJIA and the values therein?

I know I will be thought of as an idiot (and not for the first time, BTW) but I am serious.

I think that before stoning me, it might behoove you to read The Harbinger.

P

A.  I presume you sent me this because I’m supposed to know something about biblical prophecies, and actually I do have a lot to say about the subject but let me confine my comments to this supposedly approaching doomsday on said date.

First of all, the speaker who appears to be Jewish — is ‘Christian’ in thinking, in scripture interpretation and is clueless about his own heritage (the TNK, or Hebrew Scriptures).

Like Christians, he likes to connect the dots, and comes up with applications to US economy, history, future.

He thinks like Christians do, that the prophets of Israel issued predictions about future countries like USA.

Well, sorry folks, as far as we can tell from years of study and from plain reading-common-sense, the prophets of Israel addressed one nation and one nation only: Israel, as it applied or failed to apply the TORAH (guideline for living that Israel was to model so the nations of the world would be attracted to how well a society works because of the application of ‘other-centeredness’ which the Torah is about).

Deuteronomy 4:5-8

5  See,  

I am teaching you laws and regulations as YHWH my God has commanded me, to do thus,

amid the land that you are entering to possess.  

6  You are to keep (them), you are to observe (them),

for that (will be) wisdom-for-you and understanding-for-you in the eyes of the peoples

who, when they hear all these laws, will say:  

7  Only a wise and understanding people is this great nation!  

For who (else) is (such) a great nation

that has gods so near to it

as YHWH our God

in all our calling on him?  

8  And who (else) is (such) a great nation

that has laws and regulations so equitable

as all this Instruction

that I put before you today?

If Israel succeeded to be the model community for Israel’s God YHWH, then nations would be attracted to the system and way of living, apply to their own society, and voila, heaven on earth. However, Israel failed miserably and the wonder of it is that they record their failures in their own sacred scriptures.

The only other references to other nations is as they interact with Israel.  Sample, YHWH calls Cyrus, king of Persia, “my messiah” (messiah simply means ‘anointed’ to do a specific task). Cyrus was the gentile ruler who sent Israel in diaspora back to the Land, to rebuild the walls, the Temple, the city of Yerushalayim. Another gentile king, Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon was also named, and that’s a long narrative which I won’t bother to condense here.

So, if the US of A or any other country for that matter is suffering the consequences of its un-Torah lifestyle, then the judgment on it is automatic, it doesn’t have to be prophesied in the prophetic books of Israel.

My take,  “P”, but I bet I’m not off on this. I’ve learned to dump my Christian orientation and started to think Jewish in terms of reading and interpreting the TNK or Hebrew Scriptures. It’s about them, not any other world power. Dig?

Update 2015:  We soon shall know on September 13 won’t we? Then we’ll do a follow-up article, that is, IF we’re still around.

What do you think, dear reader?

NSB@S6K