[Another resurrected post from a year ago— at about this same time yearly, Sinaite VAN celebrates his birthday timed when the Jewish Passover and the Christian Easter are celebrated. Last year, our Messianic teacher-friend made a last-ditch effort to make VAN rethink the direction he had taken,basically from NT Jesus to OT YHWH; after all, VAN and wife BAN had served in Christian ministries for decades of their lives, and were incorporators of the first messianic congregation in their city of residence.
VAN just celebrated another birthday last week; this time RW no longer sent any greeting or message directly to him, though one of us still receive his newsletter and the latest one was about the blood moon appearing on Passover this year to indicate judgment time has come. If indeed it is judgment time, then we should all seriously rethink, restudy and reconsider where we are at this time in our lives. Sinaites did it four years ago and have never been more sure we’re finally on the right track. But it’s always helpful to look back, and this resurrected post says it for Sinaite VAN.—Admin1.]
Shalom VAN,
Now that you’ve turned ____ . . . I expect more wisdom from you and clear thinking.
Check out Isaiah 48:16.
(LITV) Come near to Me; hear this: I have not spoken in secret from the beginning. From its being, I was there; and now the Lord Jehovah, and His Spirit, has sent Me. (“i” and “Me” all refer to the Son, Yeshua.) I looked at this in Hebrew and the translation seems correct. I do not see any way to twist it to mean anything other than Father & Spirit sent the Son.
Check out the context – God is speaking, which we easily identify as Yeshua.
Isa 48:12-13 “Listen to me, O Jacob, and Israel, whom I called! I am he;
I am the first, and I am the last. My hand laid the foundation of the earth, and my right hand spread out the heavens; when I call to them, they stand forth together.”
Now as far as, “Behold the Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world.”
The Burnt Offering sacrifice, total dedication to God, is the #1 sacrifice that includes all others. This is the morning sacrifice and the evening sacrifice, every day, and a Lamb is the sacrificial animal. This is why Yeshua was put on the cross about 9am, the time for the morning burnt offering sacrifice, and dismissed His spirit about 3pm, the time for the evening burnt offering sacrifice. Yeshua was the Totally Dedicated to God voluntary sacrifice that encompassed or included all the others, THE LAMB of God, which satisfied the Justice of God against all sin of the entire world.
If interested, you can get the book “Yeshua, The Name of Yeshua revealed in Code in the Tanakh,” . . . .
Shalom,
RW
This is in reply to your email of the 16th April on Isaiah 48:12-13 and 16. And, this is my understanding as it is written in the Tanach (Hebrew Scriptures ):
(1). v 12 – 13 The Prophet Isaiah speaking God’s words—
- calling Jacob as Israel, the name He gave Jacob,
- proclaiming God’s omnipotence
- and declaring that God is the Creator…
- ”My hands founded the earth, and My right hand spread out the heavens..”.The ‘Me” and the “I” is God ,
YHWH. I do not believe this is Yeshua.
v 14 The Prophet Isaiah still speaking—
- and having proclaimed God’s omnipotence,
- is now calling on the idolaters to gather
- and declare that God has made Cyrus,
- the one whom the “LORD loves”
- to carry out His will against the Chaldeans.
(2). v 16 Here the Prophet Isaiah is still speaking—
- and he declares that he had spoken his prophecy regarding Sennacherib’s downfall (chap. 37)
- for all to hear from the very first time it was revealed to him by God.
Isaiah then issues a new prophecy (v 17). The “me” and the “I” is Isaiah the Prophet. Again, not Yeshua.
(3). Now coming to the “Lamb of God who takes the sins of the world” who, according to the Apostolic (New Testament) writers the “lamb” is Yeshua who was offered as a sacrifice for our sins.
As I study the Torah, the sacrifices, as instituted by God, were all animals. I have not come across human sacrifices except those offered to the god Molech and this is condemned by God. I could not understand where the Apostolic writers got this idea that this is acceptable to God. Also, the animals sacrificed were “slaughtered” not “crucified”. How then did the “crucifixion” got into the picture? Yeshua, man, was “crucified” as a sacrifice. Has God changed His mind? God did not even allow Abraham to offer his son Isaac as a sacrifice (Gen.22). Abraham offered a ram instead for a burnt offering in place of his son.
I thank Adonai Eloheinu for you who have led me to the study of the Tanach (Hebrew Scriptures) and I thank Him for giving me the knowledge and the wisdom at 83 (clear thinking for a bonus!) and a better, clearer understanding of His words. I pray that we will all get there.
By the way, I would like to suggest, if I may, to please check out these websites:Messiahtruth.org and Outreachjudaism.com , two of the websites that would give you the “other side” of the picture.
I would also suggest that you get a good copy of the Hebrew Scriptures. What I have is The Stone Edition, The Tanach, Artscroll Series. It is a translation from Hebrew to English. And, it is not adulterated.
Hag Pesach Sameach!
VAN@S6K